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The concept of security can be interpreted in many different
ways. Is someone secure if they seal themselves off from the rest of society,
or if they have the power to protect themselves from any external or internal
threat? Is a remote Amazonian tribe more secure than the United States? The
threat that faces them is a much different threat then what the President is
briefed on, but does that makes their threat less dangerous? While a realist
perspective might not give much credit to a relative gain or threat, I buy more
into the constructivist school of thought. The threat that faces the United
States such as nuclear war or the current crisis in the Ukraine is something
that is very dangerous, but the threat or deforestation or local warfare that
could face a tribe or village that nobody has ever heard of is relatively just as
dangerous. In both cases, the way of life of both societies can be put under
threat, and that makes them the top priority for people living within those
respective societies.
When examining
security on a global scale between the major actors, the stakes are obviously
much higher for who it effects. That is because the paradigm that these world
leaders are living in is that their decisions will effect every single person
in the world. They are not incorrect in assuming this, as a nuclear war would
undeniably disrupt the world and what people do in some way or another. In a
global community the consequences are felt globally, and these leaders are
aware of that when measuring how much security they have. In current events,
the intervention of Russian troops in Syria by Putin is a way of expanding the
sphere of influence of Russia. He is making a clear statement of this falls
within Russia’s hegemony, and they have a clear security intention in this. If
American troops put troops and military bases in Syria, that is dangerously
close to the Russian border, so Putin makes it clear this is his area to
intervene. With the global powers, the actions they take to protect their own
security will have ripple effects throughout the world and many other
countries, and it could possibly threaten the ways of life of some of the
people that they are interfering with.
Comparatively, if
a small tribe in the middle of a jungle is at odds with another tribe, the
threat is relatively just as big as the United States having a base next to the
Russian border. In both cases, one society is under threat from the other. If
you were to ask a leader of the tribe how serious this potential war is, it
would clearly be very serious. Similarly, if you asked Putin how serious it
would be to have United States soldiers in Syria, his answer would be very
serious. In both cases, the relative threat is the same.
While the
possibility of a war between the United States and Russia is clearly a bigger
danger to the world than a small tribal war, the relative threat for the people
living in these societies is the same. A loss could mean the end of their way
of life and all they hold dear.
Frank,
ReplyDeleteI liked your point about how there are many different tiers of security and so the tribe may have the same security threat as the US. This definitely is tied into the Constructivist ideology of identities. I think for the tribe, the security put into jeopardy by another tribe’s belligerence would be more of a means of ontological security, but in the case of US and Russia, it would be a direct threat to global security. Certainly a Realist would view the threat to the US as much more pertinent and the threat to the tribe being a trivial one. I agree with you in that the intensity of the threat to security is all relative to what your society is.
I appreciate the different perspectives that you incorporated into this post. Your look at relative security reminds me of the Enloe reading. The security of a tribe in the Amazon is seen as irrelevant in IR. This is a use of discursive power. Are we losing something be disregarding the politics of groups other than great powers? Perhaps. As you explained, a tribe leader and Putin would have the same reaction to a threat. What other similarities are there?
ReplyDeleteGreat question, while war between major powers is clearly more destructive, that again is relative. For most examples of the negative effects of a great power war, such as suffering trade and loss of life, everything would be the same on a tribal level, just on what we see as a smaller scale.
DeleteI think this is a thought-provoking topic. In the case of the Amazonian tribe, I think even the argument could be made that their relative threat is even greater than that of the United States. For example, what if their war was one with many casualties and by the end, only a few people from the tribe remained? Or worse, the tribe was wiped out completely? I think here one could make the arguement that that would cause a much more drastic change in the lives of the Amazonians compared with say, a US intervention in Syria. I think in order for the two situations to be comparable, the US would have to be engaged in a nuclear war that was mostly fought on American soil
ReplyDeleteKiefer, I agree with your point of the war having to have to take place on American soil. All of our recent wars have been fought far away, and so the true effects of the bombings etc have not been felt. While we can see a tribal war as somewhat irrelevant, that is due to our more globalized look, and its relative smallness. But your point on how it can be worse is spot on.
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ReplyDeleteI think one of the most interesting points that you bring up in your essay is Russia expanding its sphere of influence in the Middle East by deploying troops to Syria. I think that this can relate back to what I posted this week in regards to MAD. If MAD holds true, then I argued that nations with nuclear capabilities would use wars against and interference in conflicts in smaller nations to assert their power in the world. It is very likely that this is what Russia is doing in Syria. One question I have is why you think that Russia has chosen to back the Assad regime? If the conflict comes to an end, will they continue to support him or look to replace his regime?
ReplyDeleteI like how you brought into perspective security for different 'states'. I think in a day and age where we are so globalized we forget the relativity and fragility of security. My question would be, does sealing oneself off from the rest of the world, in present day circumstances, make you more or less safe? Can we say that ignorance is bliss if one would really be opening themselves up to their final demise? Your piece certainly brings some almost existential questions. Thanks for writing.
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